Jan 13
Israel and Gaza !! Has any truth ever come out from Malaysian media and leader ??
Every day we can see our politicians discussing regarding the issue in Israel and Gaza as if they can stop the war. Even UN says they can’t do anything, but our Malaysian leader’s are talking as if they have big power in the world. Our media here is like shit !! Especially the way the politicians talk about Israel.
“Kekejaman, biadap.. America cilaka, Israel tak berhati perut…” All kinda crap !!
They talk as if they were there while all these war happen.
Do you know why our leader’s cannot understand what’s happening in Israel and Gaza ??
Its because, the same thing is happening in Malaysia.
Let me give a rough idea..
Barisan Nasional gives everything on this earth to the so called ‘bumiputeras’ and discriminate the rest as if we are not worthy to live on this earth because we are not Islam. This happens especially to the Indians. So they kept discriminating and poking the Indians for 50 years. They were so patient but at one time they couldn’t take it anymore. So they decided to just show the government a little bit of what they can actually do, by protesting. But during HINDRAF who was the bad guys in the media ??
Blame it all on the Indians ?? Who did nothing except asking for their rights ??
I believe its the same case here.
Gaza have been poking and playing with the Israelite for a long long time. Many have died by their missiles and many have been injured. Israel was so patient and did not do anything till a time where Gaza start sending 80 missiles per day. Now they took a decision to give back a little back to Gaza where only 3 or 4 died. Throughout these years, thousands have been dying through Gaza’s bloody game. But just because Israel gave a little bigger shot, people start claiming stories like Dr.M who said Israel is a terrorist country(according to the media). No other countries on earth ever described Israel as a terrorist country, except some small powerless countries who like to talk big.
But I believe most of Malaysians know the level of our Malaysian media.
Please take a look at this video :
http://www.honestreporting.com/a/breaking_point.asp
Now, this is situation which I see according to my research on the net.
Malaysia : We want truth and not your fake courtesy towards Gaza. If you really care for people then prove it. There are many churches in India which is affected during the recent flood in India. Mind sending help and money over there ?? So many people are dying there in India, and you’re crapping about 3 or 4 dead in Gaza ?? Anything to do with Islam ??
Come on use common sense. If Israel really wants to kill ppl, they would not kill 3 or 4.
For all the weapons they have, it would be few thousands.
To all Malaysian leader’s and liars.
Jigsaw : Most people are so ungrateful to be alive !! ( taken from Saw )
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Omigod, you are KIDDING!
The news you read are not BERNAMA, but AP and Reuters. Now are you going to say that they are part of a bigger conspiracy that says “let’s sympathise Gaza?”
It is a bloody no brainer to see that NOT 3 or 4 people had died in the attack but a number that’s nearing a thousand!
And frankly, how much do you know about the history of zionist movements and the creation of the Israeli state smack in the middle of a pro-islamic region? You think the Jews were there since Christ? They were they, but they had long been gone. And this Israel is being populated by all migrants. Gaza people used to live in Israel. They were chased out by the Jews.
I think seriously, before you write an article on this issue, you seriously need to STUDY a lot more. If anything you have been severely swayed by the Jewish controlled media like Fox TV or any American sourced medium.
[Bro, I have been studying all these for a very very long time. Even since I was a young boy. Who the hell told you Gaza people were chased out ? How sure are you ? That country belongs to the Israelite. Yes I agree thousands died, but what about the Israel side ? No one died ? All OK ?
Its in the middle of Islamic religion but till now, not even one or all the Islamic country in that region has beaten Israel. Why ??
May I know your religion please ?]
Fat4,
Andrew is entitle to his opinion. Israel is a sovereign country, too bad her neighbours do not accept this fact. Israel is right to defend herself from her foes. However the collateral damage which is Palestinian childrens and women are worrying. Have anybody ask whether Hamas have considered their interests before firing rocket into Israel ? And the joke is “Israel reponse is not proportionate to the rockets attack on her !”. Hamas response to the Israel attacks thus far reminded me of Saddam’s regime before his downfall.
Juice2009,
Again you missed my points totally. Israel was not form until the 20th century as a token by the British government. They needed a place for the Jews community, and where better to place them but at their own holy land. Nevermind if it ALSO houses muslim holy sites.
Israel is a country which should have never been created. Since its creation, there had been no peace around that region. The Gaza people were living in the so called Israel land before they were chased like animals to this land which is smaller in size than Singapore.
Like I say, do read up FACTS before stating anything. And on a separate issue and on this blog, he was not just giving an erroneous opinion but a dangerous one, with my fictatious “facts”. The best would be 3 or 4 palestinians had died when the number is nearing 1,000.
[I did not get your facts wrong. Let me give you an example according to your point. If you own a house, and then everyone in your family had been scattered throughout the earth with no communication at all. One day you return back to your home where you found some enemies staying there. You like it ? You would tell them, nvm you can stay and I'll leave ??
Sounds stupid right, it was right for them to leave house and you take over right ? Israel is not the cause, the surrounding countries can't even take over the newly formed country, what a shame on the those countries.
How could they possibly go against God's chosen people ??
How do you say my opinion is erroneous ? And why I said 3 or 4 is because of our media bro. Read the title and the post properly, our media keep showing 3 or 4 injuries of the Palestinians as if no one in Israel is injured..]
Omigod, I wonder where you get your material for your studies. Amazing, I would say. But because you have asked me to clarify, I would show you the VERY VERY nice version on wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
Do note that I have spoken the truth. The palestinians were CHASED out of the so called “israel” land to fulfil the wishes of the zionist movements.
I am a chinese and a freethinker. I have no sympathy for muslim suicide bombers. But what I have is a conscience, one which would not like to see anyone killed.
So your example would have to be changed to, imagine if you have a house (the palestines) and then jews come around messed it up. Not only taken over your house but pushes you to the slumps on the outskirt of your ex-neighbourhood (afterall, they have taken over your neighbours houses).
I think you should read carefully what you have written. You said:
Gaza have been poking and playing with the Israelite for a long long time. Many have died by their missiles and many have been injured. Israel was so patient and did not do anything till a time where Gaza start sending 80 missiles per day. Now they took a decision to give back a little back to Gaza where only 3 or 4 died.
Do you really know your facts? The so called Hamas rocket is incapable of killing people though stray rockets have known to kill less than 10 people. The Israelis that had died so far are dead mainly from suicide bombers. Unfortunately for the Israelis because of their thirst for cheap labour from palestines, they have simultaneously allowed these obviously mad suiciders to their “land”. You have noticed how in the last 2 years since they have tightened their border crossing, there had been little incidents with suicide bombers.
Obviously I need to say you are a bit screwed when you use the term, God chosen people. Who the fuck says Jews are God chosen people. If one day you have arrived in heaven and finally found that Lord Shiva is the big boss and all others are just head of department, then you are screwed. Right? Anyways, this is not about religion, it is about humanity and the death of human beings and you think 5.6 billion people are wrong (meaning all excluding US and Israel believes Isrealis are dumbos). Go be a Jews, but last i heard, they don’t accept anyone except those with their severely retarded DNA materials.
I hope I have enlightened you enough. Do read up history before sprouting nonsense. I have backed my things up with facts, will you do the same?
I thought I have left another message. Might have been deleted or was never posted. But nevermind, I will write another post on the FACTS of the matter. Do read up the creation of the state of Israel. You have your facts TOTALLY wrong.
[Yes you commented, i was keeping it to reply... But I got no time.. And Wikipedia not necessarily be true fact..]
Fat4,
FACTS 1
State whatever opinion you want, the facts remains Israel is a country created by the UN in 1948, nothing will change this facts. It has been formed FULLSTOP, it CANNOT BE UNDONE !
FACTS 2
So now it will defend itself in whatever way possible to ensure its survival, and so we have this never ending conflicts.Whatever reasons given in firing rockets into Israel is an ACT OF WAR and deserve appropriate RESPONSE !
The above 2 facts is more than sufficient whatever FACTS you wants us to read. Huh, God chosen people, which race ?
[Israelite are God's chosen people according to Christianity]
Juice2009,
It was created in 1948 (hopefully the blogger raj will now acknowledge this fact) by the so called powers within the world. Then Malaysia was not even formed and Singapore was not even under Lee’s control. Most countries are still under imperial control or some foreign powers like france or spain. It was a bit after world war 2 when the world is disarray. It wasn’t a creation that is acceptable by all parts of the world and the show of oppositions was pronounced but not enough. If you say it cannot be undone, should we cry foul when Iraq attack Kuwait in 1990? Afterall, Israel has been expanding their territory up until recently. And my friend that is a fact.
it is NOT defending itself but an act of atrocities.
Fat4,
Hamas is a terrorist organisation , so FAT chance of it defeating Israel, cause if that is almost to happen, there would be other countries to the defend of Israel.
Iraq attacking Kuwait is nothing the same like Israel – Palestinian conflicts.
[Comment deleted due to profanity]
Whenever Palestinians supporters couldn’t debate in civilised manner, they would either shout profanities or walk out ( as in Turkish’s PM Erdogan at Davos).
They are actually after a lost cause, unless they work towards recognising Israel and iron out the rest of the details from there onwards.
Just because they share the same faith, should not be the main issue of supporting any group, especially if they resort to terrorist methods in trying to resolve issues.
What happen to ” We don’t negotiate with terrorists” ?
[Yea it was so rude.. And Malaysian TV shows some crap to cover that. That fellow couldn't answer anything but just walked out.]
CAN U JUST SHUT THE *deleted due to profanity AND STOP MUMBLING….. JUST MIND YOUR OWN BLADY BUSINESS..DAMN IT…YOU ARE SUCH PATHETIC…..YOU REALLY *deleted due to profanity MAN……MIND YOUR OWN BLADY *deleted due to profanity
[Reading through all your comments, you have nothing to say but you say I'm mumbling ??]
YOU ARE NOT A DAMN POLITICIAN
[Why do I need to be one ?]
YOU ARE NOT THE PRESIDENT…MR ANDREW RAJ…….ARE YOU BARRAK OBAMA
[You just called me Andrew Raj and then you're asking if I'm Barrack Obama ?? What a silly question...]
BY THE WAY YOU ARE UNGRATEFUL TO BE A LIFE
[Is it ? How about you ??]
To be honest, do you see a trend, Palestinian suppoters are either dumb or stupid, only know how to curse !
Pathetic !
Debate in a civil manners and we will answer accordingly. Curse and call names, we have no doubt you are either lacking somewhere or plain stupid.
hey, noble man.. how are you… it’s long time i didn’t comment to your blog… hahaha, i’m terribly so busy with my university academic session…. yeah, coz i’m now in 3rd year… however, now i think i’ve really pleased to comment on you although it’s a bit late…..
well… about Palestine and Israel conflict…. it’s so sensitive to discuss this issue… as i can see, on Christian side Israelite is the God’s chosen people… but in Islam side, we believe that Israelite is God curse on them…
we believe that, Israel is always doing chaotic in any region if their community stay at that place. We also believe that, Israel will provoke Muslim and non-Muslim in war conflict.
Since the God freed Israelite from become pharaoh’s slave, they’re never be thankful to God… God send prophet Moses (Nabi Musa) to save them and to become a guide for them to find a right path….
but they never learn… after they felt comfortable, they will no longer follow Moses… they’re even making Moses and his lesson is a joke for them. They’ve betray Moses often.
when they’re on trouble they’ll seek a God protection, but when it’s in safe they do whatever they want, whenever god forbid they’ll disobey the rule. They ever insult god. God always forgive them when, Moses beg for god to forgive them. but they never learn.
Until this day, they still do chaotic in any region they leave. They’re so greed and bad.
This tale can be found in our Holy Koran (Al-Quran). This is an Islamic version. So, from that time, God curse them until this day, because they never grateful to God.
sometimes I wonder, why do Christians love Jew.. but at the same time, in Palestine, Israel army ever attacked on Nativity Church… That Church is whereas the prophet Jesus (Nabi Isa) was born.
How could the Christian still support Israel on what they’ve done which had already attack or invade your Holy Church??
however, I think i’ve no right to comment something about Christian side. Because I’m not a Christian.
But since i read your writing above, sometimes I felt you’re right too. Because everyday I only read by only Muslim side. It’s so difficult for us to find another contra opinion in regarding this issue in Malaysia.
Anyway, I should praise to you as you’ve giving me an alternative source for this issue. Because I love to find a truth so i think this is really nice opinion to read. People shouldn’t only read by only one side… but have to open minded…
My friend, honestly I have to say that, 95% Muslim in Malaysia or in this world… hate Israel!!! I can bet for this. That’s why if i’m not mistaken, all of Muslim country refused by the diplomatic relation with Israel including Malaysia…. only Turkey they did.
[Yea thx for understanding friend. As I have told you before, there is very little Muslim who is as understanding as you. I'm amazed to see you talk or comment at times. As you can see in your comment you stated most of them hate Israel. In the Bible, its clearly stated "Love your enemies" which includes Palestine as well. Like you said, our media here is one sided. Frankly, its kinda stupid to always hear that only one side is attacking right ? And also about the diplomatic relation, this shows Malaysian has no freedom and has no respect for Christians who are living here. Christians would like to visit Israel but the government stops it and calls themselves as a democratic free country. Anyways, thx for the comment and its very nice to have a positive discussion with open minded people like you.]
I totally agree with Fat4. Andrew Raj became a Christian only because he came from the lowest cast or kasta if he were to go back to India. He should consider himself lucky that in Malaysia we do not practice the kasta system or he and his ungrateful families would have remained in rubber estates all his life with bells tied around his ankle whenever he comes out of the estate. Yeah, that’s how you should have been treated but no, the government changed that, set up schools and let you learn to become an ungrateful piece.Raj doesnt even know a thing about the coward Jews to be making comments. Which University did you go to, I wonder. Did you fail your history lessons? So if you were all formerly brought to Malaysia by the British to work in our rubber estate, and now you can have your own blog to write your rubbish, how is it that the Malaysian Government discriminate you? You want more? Try getting that from India, dear. What is your population to be wanting more, you greedy, ungrateful old man….What have you contributed to the country and the people and for independence? I’m sure you dare not mention the country you originate from, eh? Funny how most of my Indian friends from the lowest cast (if they were to be living in India) became Christians and already think they are Americans. A few even refused to admit that they can speak urdu (just English) my foot! And why should we sympathize with you when the majority population still needs help. You are not special cos you don’t even have a heart – just greedily thinking or getting more. If you hate the Malaysian Government so much, Raj, why don’t you migrate to Israel. I’m sure they would welcome you with open arms (or are you scared you would one day be shot like an animal too?) Maybe you should wait for the Rise of Islam, eh? We can’t win the war dear, but at least we tried to help while all you do is to criticise. And what makes you think the people in Malaysia don’t get the help they need? Didn’t help you maybe. Try mixing around and be a part of all the charitable society and associations and see how these organisation kept themselves busy helping the less fortunate. I’m sure you can’t contribute to that because most of the poor in this coutry are Muslims. And you? You just want your dues, get rich quickly and buy more toddy, get drunk and when you don’t get rich and don’t get what you wanted, you just criticize. Pathetic.
[Actually I was lazy to read this, but I took a glanced. So just say whatever you want to say. Humans are humans, in case you think black is bad and white is good... Sorry to say, you're wrong.. Anyways, I don't think your name is Eve..]